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And I forgot to mention in my response about why I decided to go: I was eager to meet the legendary Robert Talbert, whose work I so admire. (We do live only about 2 hours apart, but we had never met in person.)

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That really means a lot Susan, especially coming from someone whose work is as impactful as yours. It was very cool to get all that face time with you in KSA. And I'll reiterate what I said the first time we attempted this interview, everybody traveling abroad should do so with an anthropologist.

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